how one would, legally of course, obtain access to EV's pre-Fallen works

[Chaosmosis]

Well, actually, 'tis more of a curiosity for EV fans living in Australia.

I'm curious about how one would, legally of course, obtain access to EV's pre-Fallen works.

Thoughts?

Answer: http://evanescencereference.info/music/

[Glaedr]

Didn't the band say people were free to download Origin songs because it was so hard to get hold of? I'm pretty sure I saw that somewhere.

[Chaosmosis]

Aye.

I recall hearing about that.

The question is... where to download them?

[Purple Harlequin]

Try emp3 world (http://www.emp3world.com)
I'm not sure if it'll have all of their stuff, but if you have time, it's worth a try.
There used to be an awesome Evanesence fan site that allowed you to download all of their older music, but the admin shut it down. RIP MLB... *Weep*

[Glaedr]

Well I presume since theyv'e given their permission it would be from places that don't charge? I'd be rather wary of file sharing programs though. The temptation might be too great to grab something else as well.

[Darkangelofrock]

I really don't know, all of us would buy this but it's so hard to. I have my origin now, but I'm looking for this since 5 years.... !!! I think searching is the best way:confused:

[katie08]

downloading - http://www.evfan.net.tc/

listening or downloading - http://evanescencereference.info/music/

:)

[Glaedr]

Thanks :)

Ebay has Origin sometimes. But of course you can't always be sure that it's the real thing. I actually saw someone listing fake cds t hat had never been released a few days ago. Greatest hits and so on and calling them official -.-

[Clayton]

I've bought my copy in a local metal shop, which doesn't exists anymore :( but after that I had uploaded it to my website (see link), but I think the link is now expired to the downloads. That's why I'm working on a new paid site, where I will upload the songs again.

But just try browsing Ev fansites, you'll probally find something!

[Aerdna]

I don't have a real copy of Origin, but I burned myself a copy with mp3 downloads which I got from fieldsofinnocence.com (http://www.fieldsofinnocence.com). I think they have other songs too...Only thing is that you have to sign up to download, but it's all good.

[Halah]

I just did my research on the pre fallen albums then went on a search and managed to find and download all the unreleased songs that we fans, have heard, and just burnt it on a disc in the exact album orders.

Mind you this was 2 years ago or more, so while searching for pre fallen songs, the band was fresh and so it was easy for me to find, as everyone was in a 'hunting' craze.

[Broken Rebel]

http://www.bringmetolife.com has all of them in the musiques part of the site, but you need winrar to unzip the files. :)

[dreamchaser_83]

i have origin, i got it off ebay. as for the rest of the pre fallen demos and songs, i downloaded them all off limewire and bearshare. (i hate bearshare, stupid pop ups!) but ya, i got them all like 4 years ago, it was much easier to get their demos back then. the majority of them are on limewire though. or find a friend off the threads that has them and is willing to share! :p

[Glaedr]

I got it included in a DVD/CD package-thing. I'm not sure whether it's an official DVD or not. I can't remember the name either >.< we moved a year ago and there's still stuff I can't find including this. It was of a concert though. Not Anywhere But Home. I have that too. This was in a black case.

[Chiara]

I downloaded all the old songs by limewire and symella!

[Gunn]

I know Amy and Ben said in an interview it was perfectly fine to download Pre-Fallen stuff. They don't make a profit from anyway. Glad I found this site on this post http://www.evfan.net.tc/. I managed to download a few odd songs I havn't been able to find elsewhere:D

[Chaosmosis]

I appreciate the assistance from you all... you've provided me with some interesting avenues.

Thanks. ;)

[Tiffany]

Anyone know another site where I can get the covers they did? I looked on the EV Covers thread and didn't find anywhere. The EVFan website's links are down for those.

[Glaedr]

There were some listed on ebay I think... I'll see if theyr'e still there

[*~DeathDealer~*]

or find a friend off the threads that has them and is willing to share! :p

Like me! lol :p

[Gregory]

All of the Evfan links seem to be broken.

Damn. I thought I had completed my collection. I now see I need like 10 covers and 5 acoustics. :: runs off to limewire ::

[Lauren1]

I'm trying to find Origin on e-bay, and there are a lot listed. All of them only have 10 or 11 tracks, does that mean they are not real?

[Katya]

Origin has 11 tracks. Any more or any less means that it's fake.

And almost all of the Origins on eBay are fake anyway, whether the tracklisting is right or not.

[Lauren1]

So is there anywhere I can buy it and be sure it's real?

[Katya]

Nope. Nowhere. Only 2500 copies of it were made.

Honestly, you'd be better off downloading them for free. The band has even said that they don't want us paying for some fake copy off eBay; they'd rather us download it all.

[Cfw828]

Original Origins around the time they started selling out (can you believe it took about 2 1/2 years before it did?) were going for as high as $300 on EBay.

I don't honestly know how much they're going for now, but I'm with the band on this one :p

[bdp226]

if you want to do it legally: ebay. if not: limewire.

[DarkStar]

if you want to do it legally: ebay. if not: limewire.

i wouldn't say that. as previous people have said, pretty much all the origins and other pre fallen stuff on ebay is just someone whose downloaded it and put it onto a cd. i wouldn't call that legal! just download it. the lable aren't loosing out on money by doing so.

[bdp226]

i wouldn't say that. as previous people have said, pretty much all the origins and other pre fallen stuff on ebay is just someone whose downloaded it and put it onto a cd. i wouldn't call that legal! just download it. the lable aren't loosing out on money by doing so.

yeah but. its slighty more legal than just downloading it. and sometimes you may actually find a real copy with a case and stuff. but whatever.

[DarkStar]

yeah but. its slighty more legal than just downloading it. and sometimes you may actually find a real copy with a case and stuff. but whatever.

so someone else downloading it and selling it for waaay too much money, and pretending its a real copy is more legal than you downloading it? i think not! its very very rare that they are real. not all the tracks are even on fallen/ev EP/ sound asleep EP. trust me, just download it. but only pre fallen stuff!! i dont condone downloading The OPen Door when you can easily get it in shops!:p

[Katya]

Exactly. These people take high quality scans of the CD, download the tracks, burn them to a CD and print out the artwork on the right kind of paper so it looks legit. There's nothing legal about that at all. Why pay money for something that someone did with way too much time on their hands? Just download it yourself...Amy has said that she's okay with it, so I say, go with it.

[AeternusAmatorius]

Most of the stuff you find on the internet, with people claiming it's authentic, most likely isn't.

Amy said in a concert, right before playing "Even In Death," that if the fans, in the crowd, liked it they can check it out on Kazaa or something.

You don't have to obtain a legal document to get all of Evanescence's old, Pre-"Fallen" songs.

That includes:
The three EP's
Origin
and the demos to "Fallen."

[Star121]

Is there anywhere where I can download Origin and other old stuff because I'm not allowed to buy things from ebay and I don't have that much money anyway.

[Sparkling Gray]

http://www.evanescencereference.info/music

T3H EVANESCENCE REFERENCE FTFW! :D

[Frank]

Everytime I try and download from that page, it just plays it for me in quicktime. It won't work.

[Our Demise]

Right-click on each song, and press "Save Target As" or "Save Link As".

[HelloStrangerFOI]

the easiest way is to go to torrents and just look up origin and whatever
they have all them there all bundled like a cd. i got origin from a torrent site where it also included all the album artwork for Origin, the back, the front and the inside
Neat huh?!

[HelloStrangerFOI]

i've also got their demo's and the one right before fallen from a torrent website :) including artowrk too!

[Sick Forever]

I have a question. Off the Evanescence Reference site, I`ve been playing the songs with Windows Media Player, and I`ve tried burning them to blank cd`s. But everytime I try, it gives me this stupid "Not synchronized" warning. Can anyone help me? I`m horrible with computers.

[Hollee]

http://www.evanescencereference.info/music

T3H EVANESCENCE REFERENCE FTFW! :D

LYKE Z0MG NO WAI!!

haha you pwn.

[2live2breathe]

I have a question. Off the Evanescence Reference site, I`ve been playing the songs with Windows Media Player, and I`ve tried burning them to blank cd`s. But everytime I try, it gives me this stupid "Not synchronized" warning. Can anyone help me? I`m horrible with computers.

REALLY? That's strange. I'm just re-downloading all their old stuff ATM, but I haven't tried burning yet. Hopefully they'll work.

[cherfan5]

Thank you so much for these links!!! Being able to download these songs made my whole week - much appreciated!

downloading - http://www.evfan.net.tc/

listening or downloading - http://evanescencereference.info/music/

:)

[kathy025]

http://lnx.evanescencewebsite.com/MediaArchive
www.evalair.com/Media%20Center/mediaindex.html


Things to take note of are the high quality music videos, especially for Lithium and Sweet Sacrifice. You can't get a hold of those easily. Also, extremely rare tracks like EPs and demo versions can also be downloaded for free from the EvaLair link.

Enjoy. :)

[Elinescence]

kathy I love you LOL :D
i've been looking for this forever now! :)

[Chiara]

Thank u very much guys! U posted precious sites! :D

[darladelusion]

dude check ebay! i have three of their ultra rare albums that i got from camden market in london, ui was lucky as it was just after fallen had been released so i got them pretty cheap!!

[kathy025]

kathy I love you LOL :D
i've been looking for this forever now! :)
Haha. LOL!

No problem. ;)

[LacunaAffectus]

dude check ebay! i have three of their ultra rare albums that i got from camden market in london, ui was lucky as it was just after fallen had been released so i got them pretty cheap!!

99% of the time, any pre-Fallen albums being sold on Ebay (or anywhere for that matter) are fake. So congratulations, you probably got scammed.

[lithium-amy]

This is very cool! Thanks for the link!;)

[Harlious]

ehh download the band dont even care. they told all at live events so

[widowmaker]

If you know how to use bittorrent then you can probably find a lossless cd rip somewhere. There is also IRC which is my choice.

[Drandre]

99% of the time, any pre-Fallen albums being sold on Ebay (or anywhere for that matter) are fake. So congratulations, you probably got scammed.

Oh I've been there - I've been scammed many times but I've turned that around. Being a deep Ev fan myself, I found it so frustrating that other Ev fans were getting ripped off on eBay. So I started selling on eBay instead. What I do is that I buy up the three CDs preceding Fallen, rigorously test them, and attempt to authenticate them. While I cannot guarantee 100% verification, when I'm done with them and put them back on the market, I'm 99.9% sure they're real.

What do I do with the fakes? They get sent back to their owners and I take their seller IDs and warn potential buyers.

At the moment I only resell Origin CDs because they're cheaper to buy. The Evanescence EP usually fetches $1000 and the Sound Asleep EP usually fetches $700. As you can imagine, I can't buy those up each time and test them, whereas the Origins I can.

So at this point you're probably wondering what I've got. I've probably got a dozen real Origin CDs (one signed by the entire band at the time), I've got two Evanescence EPs (one signed by the entire band at the time), and three real Sound Asleep EPs (one signed by Amy). Actually I have four Sound Asleep EPs, but one is a fake as I've discovered, so I'm sending it back.

In addition, I keep meticulous records with the CDs history from each person I buy from, each CD has some background to it.

By the way, Moderators - this is not an advertisement or anything of that sort - I'm just letting other Ev fans know what lies beyond EvThreads. If you want to learn more, just look up my eBay ID: drandre06

EDIT: I'm actually hoping to work together with the Wiki Evanescence Reference and share my authenticating tips and info with you folks. :)

[kathy025]

This thread deserves to be stickied. :)

[LadyChaos]

just go here http://www.evanescencereference.info/music/ it has all of the pre-fallen tracks available for streaming downloads. There used to be a thread of this subject before somewhere....

[I_saw_her_bleed]

I just found this site:

http://www.mp3raid.com/search/mp3/evanescence.html

And it lists a supposed ev song called "she is my sin"

I was wondering: is this legit?

And if it is, is it a legal site?

[Scin]

I just found this site:

http://www.mp3raid.com/search/mp3/evanescence.html

And it lists a supposed ev song called "she is my sin"

I was wondering: is this legit?

And if it is, is it a legal site?

She is My Sin = Nightwish

[I_saw_her_bleed]

^ Thanks, that explains a lot. :)

I'm not familiar with Nightwish, so I didn't know that, but I'd never heard of an Ev song by that name and just wanted to check. ;)

[Wolfie©]

I'm curious about how one would, legally of course, obtain access to EV's pre-Fallen works.

Sound Asleep: Media (sound-asleep.net)

[XxJessxX]

I have tried every site but i'm still having trouble getting a hold of the pre fallen stuff.I finally got it all downloaded but now i'm still having trouble.I think it's the CD now that i'm having the problem with.I need to get some new CD's and hopefully I'll finally have all the songs recorded.

http://www.evanescencereference.info/music/
I had the biggest problem with this site at first but eventually i got it to work by individually saving and downloading every song.Like i said now my problem is the CD either that or i did something wrong.By the way a couple of the sites in this thread don't actually work anymore but i can't remember which ones right now.